Before "Steam Play" became synonymous with compatibility layers, it was just the term Steam used to mean you do not have to buy games separately for Mac/Linux/Windows. The store used to show a small "SteamPlay" icon next to the supported platforms. Any game that did not have this icon had to be bought separately on each supported platform. I'm guessing they reappropriated the term because publishers typically did not opt out of cross-buying.

[ 2022-05-11 07:24:19Z ] 👍 0

@@bloepje That's what I said. But instead of "all 3 platforms" it means all supported platforms.

[ 2022-05-11 05:58:43Z ] 👍 0

Actually, it meant nothing more than that it runs on all 3 platforms. Except for GTA 3 , vice city and SA, there is no per platform license.

I’d be dope if they started to support crossover or similar for MacOS. But I’m dreaming, Valve hates Apple more than they hate Microsoft. LOL.

[ 2022-05-10 12:32:01Z ] 👍 1

Crossover will probably take up the mantle of MacOS support. I can see them making a Lutris-like launcher for the different game clients

[ 2022-05-10 12:28:50Z ] 👍 2

@BlackWorm I don't mean to be the old guy shouting at clouds, quite literally. LOL. But a future where gaming is just in the cloud sounds awful to me. I don't think most gamers would be happy with it. More choice, okay, why not. But just cloud, where you don't own squat and just rent... my gods, as we say in Italy "anche no".

[ 2022-05-10 12:28:37Z ] 👍 0

@BlackWorm Steam Cloud Gaming is one possibility, but for now they're all-in on the hardware side of things but it would put them in a good position for one.

[ 2022-05-10 12:19:49Z ] 👍 1

@@gamingonlinux Well, they could have used FreeBSD as Sony did. The licensing is even better from a corporation point of view. I think they picked Linux because they are not Sony, or let alone Apple or Microsoft and they needed the community support as well. Linux community is bigger by several orders of magnitude. At least, that’s my personal take. In any case Crossover already exists and works, they should just be aware of it and maybe let the testing burden entirely on the community? But then again, not big enough for them to put any effort into it. I guess.

[ 2022-05-10 11:47:54Z ] 👍 10

Not quite. The reason they support Linux is because it's free and open source, there's no special licensing concerns and they can (and have with the Deck and SteamOS) change it fully to suit their needs, and hire developers to work on the code directly (which again they have). Part of the reason why they don't do any of it for macOS is two issues: - Metal, yet another API - They don't need it for anything

what i want to know is what is up with all the proton versions. i see valve updating proton all the time so shouldn't the latest version be the best one. Except an experimental one that can be used for testing things in case things get fucked up for older stuff, but besides that, whey isn't there just one stable version of proton.

[ 2022-05-10 17:55:18Z ] 👍 1

a prime example is, until recently, Rocket League only worked on Proton 5, or the community made Proton-GE. After the most recent update it seems to work just fine on all newer versions of Proton. Sometimes when they make a change in a version of proton to add compatibility to one game, it can inadvertently break another game, and there's just so many games it's hard to test all of them.

[ 2022-05-10 14:36:09Z ] 👍 4

@@atul1991ful that is essentially it yes, regressions can happen which aren’t intentional, so older versions sticking around help if that happens

[ 2022-05-10 14:16:59Z ] 👍 3

@@gamingonlinux so they are trying to make sure there's one version to rule them all but aren't quite there yet? i would be fine with that knowing things will get better.

[ 2022-05-10 13:41:07Z ] 👍 2

That is a whole 'nother complicated subject. Sometimes games only run with certain versions, so they keep older generations of Proton around for those until they find why they don't work in newer Proton. There's a lot more to it than that but that's the gist of it.

Thanks for making this video, this was helpful. Would you mind making a video how Heroic works? I've seen/read some conflicting information, such as forcing the compatibility in SteamOS will override what's set in Heroic. I haven't been able to figure out how to tell if this is true or not. I saw your video on using Heroic but I'm hoping to dive a little deeper in just what's going on. I found some games will only work when going into Heroic and launching from there but not when launching from SteamOS (after using Heroic Bash Launcher). In games like Sifu, I found launching them from Heroic performs significantly better than if you launch them through the Heroic Bash Launcher made scripts.

So, wouldn’t it just make sense to play these games on windows instead?

[ 2022-05-13 15:04:55Z ] 👍 0

Not necessarily. The benefit of having the proton compatibility layer is in part that it gives Valve more control with integrating features across games, and providing that for SteamOS. This is in part why Steam Input works out better for games where on windows there would be issues (EA Origin games are an obvious example). Another benefit is the obvious one where it allows them to have support for Windows apps, while providing the feature support from a custom Linux-based OS, which they wouldn't be able to do if they just used windows on it's own (since Windows isn't provided in a way analogous to how Linux is, only Microsoft can use windows in such a fashion).

[ 2022-05-12 23:39:05Z ] 👍 4

windows is becoming bloatware more and more by the day... so probably not.

[ 2022-05-11 15:49:44Z ] 👍 5

Some people would prefer using Linux over Windows for many reasons

[ 2022-05-11 10:13:03Z ] 👍 1

If I'd say that many one "don't want" to?

[ 2022-05-11 07:27:29Z ] 👍 0

Nope not at all

I have really loved my deck. Sadly it has a hardware fault (L3 does not respond) so I am RMAing it, but that hasnt stopped me using it in the meantime as that isnt used for much. Very neat device and the compatability is impressive.

Does anyone else get the feeling from these videos that a sentient steam deck is explaining things to you very eloquently British English?

[ 2022-05-14 13:46:00Z ] 👍 2

😂🤣😇

Thank you for reminding me why I’m a console gamer. Who wants to have to think about this kind of stuff. I’ve been using my Steam Deck to remote Play into Xbox games pass and my PS5.

[ 2022-08-23 12:23:45Z ] 👍 3

@@Knoby1000 I was speaking for myself .

[ 2022-08-23 12:17:27Z ] 👍 1

I want to think about these. Everything on life is not served on a silver platter, and Steam deck exists because people are passionate about graphics API and OS environment hacks/workarounds. And if you want to stay ignorant thats your choice, but please speak for yourself.

hi I have a big problem with my steam deck, when I start any game in my library after 5 minutes it freezes and I have to reset. can you give me some advice? thank you .

[ 2022-12-26 15:50:43Z ] 👍 0

Hey did you ever get that issue resolved? I hope it works alot better now. There's a community on reddit that i always go to whenever i need support for the steam deck. It's called r/steamdeck. Theres alot of active people who help with technical issues just like yours in case you still need help. Of course you may have to send into steam support for them to look into it, but i always check reddit to see of anyone had similar issues.

What about wine 🍷 ?

So for games like Beamng Drive, I'm using experimental. Is this the best version or should I be using the top number?

[ 2023-02-16 14:43:47Z ] 👍 0

Proton Experimental always has the latest everything.

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