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I havent moaned about Valve being lax on Deck Verified for a while so here we are, #Kena on #SteamDeck is a mess out of the box even though its Verified. Thankfully through plenty of testing, heres a suggested config for you to get it playable and some gameplay. Keep in mind obviously it looks better on the Steam Deck screen directly.Once you get past the performance issues, its a lot of fun to play but the developer really needs to optimise it more.Follow me: https://twitter.com/gamingonlinux  Read news: https://www.gamingonlinux.com  Support me: https://www.patreon.com/liamdawe  Join Discord: https://discord.gg/AghnYbMjYgSteam link: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1954200/Kena_Bridge_of_Spirits/

[ 2022-09-27 21:21:13Z ]👍 1

It's really impressive I can't wait for valve to send me my victory email but I booked it at the end of July before it appeared October to December, now September to December but the hope remains lol

[ 2022-09-28 08:35:08Z ] 👍 0

Mines coming today!!

[ 2022-09-28 04:44:21Z ] 👍 0

I put my reservation in aug29 and got my email yesterday

[ 2022-09-27 21:25:31Z ]👍 26

I saw someone on the subreddit mention that increasing the amount of VRAM/UMA to 4 GB in the deck's BIOS menu fixes or at least improves the stuttering.

[ 2022-09-28 16:15:02Z ] 👍 2

@@DavideDavini So, I just retested. Turned it up to High Graphics, but I left the dynamic resolution on at a target of 60 fps... I got a pretty steady 45. There wasn't any performance hitches that affected game play.

[ 2022-09-28 12:01:01Z ] 👍 1

That’s fascinating but it’s kinda nuclear solution for something that should work out of the box 😂 RE Verified for Steam Deck

[ 2022-09-28 06:43:39Z ] 👍 1

@@gamingonlinux The big issue I saw was disabling the dynamic resolution. Even modern consoles just do that for you. I set the target to 60 FPS. I think I MAY have turned it down to low graphics and DX12. I think I dipped into the low 50s/upper 40s FPS in that same boss battle.

[ 2022-09-27 23:13:23Z ] 👍 8

@@gamingonlinux Valve have a lot of work ahead of them to unlock the steam deck’s potential which I hoped wouldn’t be an issue during its release cycle

[ 2022-09-27 21:27:30Z ] 👍 67

While interesting, no one should need to mess with a BIOS of all things to get a game that is Verified to perform at a satisfactory level

[ 2022-09-27 21:39:52Z ]👍 1

Screen at 45hz,but 60fps? Wont u not miss the extra 15fps

[ 2022-09-28 09:12:31Z ] 👍 4

Well, this game annoyingly doesn't have a slider but only set values like 30, 60 etc. So rather than forcing 30, i prefer to get that bit extra for the frametiming and input lag so limit the deck to 40 or 45.

[ 2022-09-28 05:41:38Z ] 👍 2

@@GuyManley I play at 40 all the time for the same reason. :)

[ 2022-09-28 05:34:47Z ] 👍 0

Frame time at over 40 is close enough to 60’s. Plus changing the screen refresh rate to match the game’s solves the tearing issue.

[ 2022-09-28 05:33:40Z ] 👍 0

Having a lower target FPS can help with reaching that FPS, improve frame time consistency, and make FPS drops stand out a bit less if the drop is nearer to your lower target than 60 or whatever it was before

[ 2022-09-28 00:13:20Z ] 👍 3

you'd be surprised what having the fps and screen refresh rate match does. I find myself lowering it to 40hz, 40fps even if a game will do 60 just because it's big battery life gains

[ 2022-09-27 21:42:00Z ]👍 15

I dont see the mess there sorry pal. Just cap it to 30 and be a happy little camper.

[ 2022-09-28 01:29:25Z ] 👍 0

@@ThorAxiun Did you miss the part where at no second in this video it drops below 35?

[ 2022-09-28 01:28:53Z ] 👍 0

@@ge5510 I dont see it struggling to hit 30. Its never below 35 in this video.

[ 2022-09-28 01:27:04Z ] 👍 2

Did you miss the part where he said it's not even a stable 30? Orrr...?

[ 2022-09-27 23:09:41Z ] 👍 2

I had to cap my Cyberpunk 2077 at 30 and everybody seems to not care. There isn't much you can do.

[ 2022-09-27 22:17:16Z ] 👍 3

If elden ring can do 60 and this struggles to do 30...

[ 2022-09-27 21:54:22Z ]👍 0

I have a theory because this is been happening to a lot of major publisher games. I have the fear that money may have changed hands to place that green check mark. Although I want to believe valve would never do that it is possibility

[ 2022-09-27 23:30:17Z ] 👍 3

Nah, I think it just means Valve's verification testing is not as thorough nor as strict as they claim it is. They're also seemingly very bad at going back and retesting unsupported titles.

[ 2022-09-27 21:56:28Z ]👍 0

Fire ♨now 🎈🎈🎈

[ 2022-09-27 22:02:11Z ]👍 1

Anyone know the download size off hand?

[ 2022-09-28 00:18:22Z ] 👍 1

I believe it's 22-24 GB.

[ 2022-09-27 22:05:09Z ]👍 0

Who "verifies" games on steam deck? Or what happens in that process? I doubt its a person or people playing the game through in the Valve offices. I would imagine its a process the developers do themselves and in those cases you are going to get people not doing a good job.

[ 2022-09-28 06:56:19Z ] 👍 0

@@TheTricou First of all, thanks. But I think the issue here is that that the Verified Games are supposed to work right out of the box without having to fiddle with them.

[ 2022-09-27 22:23:10Z ] 👍 2

Window Mode: Fullscreen Resolution: 1280×800 Graphics API: DirectX 12 V-Sync: On Motion Blur Intensity: personal choice Quality: Custom Advanced Graphics Dynamic Resolution: Enabled Dynamic Resolution Target: 40 FPS Visible Rot: Low FPS Limit: Unlimited Motion Blur: Medium (or off) Volumetric Fog: Medium Ambient Occlusion: Medium Post Processing Quality: Medium Textures: High Foliage: Medium Shadows: Medium The most important thing is to change the API in the graphics settings to DirectX 12 after launching the game. Remember to restart Kena: Bridge of Spirits for the changes to take effect. Due to the dynamic resolution, I recommend turning on motion blur, although this is your individual choice. It will reduce artifacts resulting from image scaling. Also don't use the Framelimiter from SteamOS UI, use only the refresh rate and set to 40.

[ 2022-09-27 22:05:46Z ]👍 0

I'm never tired of saying the Steam Deck "Verified" program is a joke with games which crash every few hours or without any gamepad support at all. Game defaults causing bad performance is the lesser of its problems tbh.

[ 2022-09-27 22:54:43Z ]👍 0

Don't have a deck, but I do want to play this on linux. I will wait for some entries on protondb tho. No blind buy for me :D

[ 2022-09-27 23:22:41Z ]👍 6

I've been waiting for Kena to come to steam before playing it. Looks like I'll be waiting a bit longer though because I don't want to lower graphical settings much for this one.

[ 2022-09-27 23:41:27Z ]👍 1

it looks terrible on steam deck tbh

[ 2022-09-28 03:30:35Z ] 👍 3

Turn off dynamic resolution, that's the reason. It looks great at native resolution and a mix of medium, high and low settings.

[ 2022-09-28 02:18:23Z ]👍 2

I'd try dropping the resolution even more since youre using FSR. Fidelity will remail roughly the same.

[ 2022-09-28 04:59:50Z ]👍 2

Lol motion blur off my dudes. That just makes more load on the device and makes it look sht.

[ 2022-09-28 09:48:46Z ] 👍 1

@@gamingonlinux oh thats bad. Game devs should fix that.

[ 2022-09-28 07:59:20Z ] 👍 2

If you notice there is no arrow to turn it off, only Low.

[ 2022-09-28 05:05:26Z ]👍 3

I still find it amazing that Unreal Engine 4 still has massive stutters. Like Star Wars The Fallen Order, massive I/O stutters ALL THE TIME. The Steam Deck actually help a lot of Unreal Engine games with its shader cache, but yeah. Unreal Engine works great on consoles but has always been a hot mess on PC. It's a shame Kena is performing... weirdly.... but it will likely always have the characteristic stutters of the Unreal Engine.

[ 2022-09-28 17:46:17Z ] 👍 0

I just started Jedi Fallen Order on my desktop (also Linux), and I was surprised at all the shader cache stuttering. It was really obvious that was the issue I was seeing. It's mostly during the 'cut scene' type parts, but it is a bit annoying. Is it just as bad on Windows?

[ 2022-09-28 14:52:44Z ] 👍 0

I just hope Valve can find a fix like they did for Elden Ring, Idk if they fixed other games with shader compilation issues?

[ 2022-09-28 05:37:03Z ]👍 2

It's a good game, I played with wine on my arch. But yes, it demands. With my old gf660 was almost unplayable (sub 10 fps I think). It's incredible that can run on small device that this. I only found a small problem when played. In one instance, much further on the game, it always crashed with directx12. Change to11, pass the section and it works.

[ 2022-09-28 06:04:37Z ]👍 1

Switch to directx12 in the settings and see if that helps, I found directx11 to be completely unplayable to the point where it definitely shouldn’t have been verified, but 12 is much smoother.

[ 2022-09-28 06:47:42Z ]👍 8

Honestly though, the fact that this game even runs at 45 is a luxury. This is a 30FPS cap game on something like the Deck.

[ 2023-03-20 21:03:52Z ] 👍 0

@@DavideDavini if there's still some headroom, absolutely!

[ 2023-01-23 07:44:55Z ] 👍 1

@@me77111 capping it at 40 is even better. :)

[ 2023-01-23 00:57:05Z ] 👍 1

I agree. In my mind if it can't comfortably reach a solid 60, it goes to 30. Better to have some headroom to keep it stable than pegging anything at 100% of its capability and having wild frame pacing.

[ 2022-09-28 08:04:28Z ]👍 1

"exclusive to the epic store" yeah no, not going to support devs who take scummy deals like.

[ 2022-09-28 11:21:08Z ] 👍 0

@@gamingonlinux that’s fine, I personally blame epic 🥲 If they want great content for their store, they should make it themselves.

[ 2022-09-28 09:26:50Z ] 👍 2

I really don't blame developers for doing that. Hundreds of games come out all the time and it's often the difference between a developer making money and not. We want more games right? Blame the industry as a whole, not individual devs :P

[ 2022-09-28 08:25:30Z ]👍 1

- Be sure to use DX12 - less stuttering, better performance - The game works much better in the Steam version compared to the Epic Games Store - On medium settings with dynamic resolution 40 FPS is finally achievable https://youtu.be/enPBlZalRzE

[ 2022-09-28 08:29:50Z ]👍 3

Valve seem to only check the early experience of a game before verifying it. Seems like a limitation of their testing methodology but also I can't blame them for not wanting to run a game for hours just in case the framerate tanks later on. I hope steamdeck verification can encourage devs to try a bit harder to improve the Out-of-box experience. Verification has a tonne of benefits to the developer, so hopefully they return the favour with steamdeck enhancements! As for VRAM/BIOS edits for smoother gameplay, it's surprising the deck only allocates 1GB for VRAM out of the box. Would be a good idea for them to see if this can be added to the performance menu, even if it meant restarting the game to take effect.

[ 2023-01-11 22:28:11Z ] 👍 0

@@merthyr1831 I hope so because I love the hardware

[ 2023-01-11 19:47:01Z ] 👍 0

@@sosantonio94 They do that a lot more now. verification seems to have improved a lot since this video (idk if Kena's performance is fixed tho)

[ 2023-01-11 01:25:12Z ] 👍 0

Then they should not verify the game. Or even so, they should erase the verify if the feedback is not good

[ 2022-09-28 08:51:57Z ]👍 1

I am playing Kena for a while now it was amazing on Steam Deck. Had it installed by using the epic game store. The performance was a lot better before the big update where it went to steam, too.

[ 2022-09-28 11:09:24Z ]👍 1

Unfortunately this is what happens when an indie dev punches above their weight class. I remember the PS5 version being a little rough around the edges as well and think it even crashes a few times at launch.

[ 2022-09-28 16:54:39Z ]👍 0

I feel steam says varified and shit not always same with playable v rising was trash for me . But not just that mega man x collection was playable and now non supported kinda threw me off because I bought it and it runs ok but the controls are at times for boss fights lame since I can't use all the buttons

[ 2022-09-28 20:15:23Z ]👍 1

Valheim is also Deck Verified and that doesn't run great either.

[ 2022-09-28 20:36:37Z ]👍 4

30+ fps and decent graphics is still impressive for a handheld.

[ 2022-09-28 20:42:00Z ]👍 0

Are you sure the stuttering isn't a shader cache issue or do you get the same stuttering on a second playthrough?

[ 2022-09-29 15:59:40Z ]👍 2

This might not be a popular opinion but I played so many games on the xbox 360 that would drop down to the teens or even something like starfox on the snes at 20 fps that a game hovering around 30 fps is still awesome to me.

[ 2022-09-29 20:40:10Z ]👍 15

I must not be particularly picky, but I think this looks like it runs great. More than just playable.

[ 2022-09-30 15:20:35Z ]👍 0

is there even shader cache yet that is being downloaded?

[ 2022-10-01 15:50:35Z ]👍 0

Thank you for your review on Steam Deck. I was thinking of purchase this for my Steam Deck but decided to wait for a bit longer.

[ 2022-10-01 22:16:52Z ]👍 0

Thank you for showing us so honestly

[ 2022-10-05 16:40:15Z ]👍 1

I turned Dynamic Resolution Target FPS ON, and set it to 40fps, then used the Steam Deck's settings to match 40fps max. The graphics take a little bit of a hit, but unless playing on big external monitor, it's not terrible (I'm a stickler for graphics usually and I'm quite happy with the end results). I'm able to run it very smoothly at a locked 40fps most of the time this way.

[ 2022-10-09 02:03:08Z ]👍 0

This game is a mess on high end pcs also.

[ 2022-10-10 19:39:18Z ]👍 0

Please, if possible, put subtitles for Portuguese Brazil I really liked your channel

[ 2022-10-13 17:16:36Z ]👍 0

I tried playing it on Linux via lutris before, it ran fine at 60fps in game-play areas but the game stuttered hard when there was a video cut-scene I eventually gave up since I wanted to enjoy the story.

[ 2023-01-15 17:54:34Z ]👍 4

My wife beat Kena: Bridge of Spirits in it's entirety on the Steam Deck and LOVED it! She's working on a second playthrough of this game on the Steam Deck currently. She once reported some lag. But after I set the framerate cap to 30 fps the game no longer experienced slowdowns.