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Just spitting out some thoughts surrounding the #SteamDeck and the #ROGAlly in regards to this channel and the future of the Deck.Buy from Humble Store with my partner link to support the channel: https://www.humblebundle.com/store?partner=gamingonlinuxFollow me in these places:Mastodon: https://mastodon.social/@gamingonlinuxTwitter: https://www.twitter.com/gamingonlinuxRead news: https://www.gamingonlinux.com  Support me: https://www.patreon.com/liamdawe  Join Discord: https://discord.gg/AghnYbMjYgA reminder: this channel and the content is done entirely by one person. Please be kind and civil in the comments.==============Affiliate links below to support the channel to give me some monies:ivoler Steam Deck Docking Station (UK): https://amzn.to/3XgT2YXSpiden Armour Steam Deck Case (UK): https://amzn.to/3XTy3vltomtoc Carrying Case for Steam Deck (UK): https://amzn.to/3kmGW1U

[ 2023-05-11 17:12:11Z ]👍 9

Devices like GPD Win 4 and Win Max 2 got Linux support nearly instantly so I expect this to get Linux pretty soon. I’m fine with you continuing to cover Steam Deck and developments on that platform.

[ 2023-05-12 18:38:20Z ] 👍 0

@@wizardpajamas6405 You would most likely not see those savings but the company would be happy to take the margins

[ 2023-05-11 19:18:43Z ] 👍 3

Can you order one of those GPD devices without Windows? It's great that they have Linux support but I'd also like to save ~$100 or if I'm not using an OS licensed from Microsoft.

[ 2023-05-11 17:12:54Z ]👍 2

Between my steam deck and my switch I’m good with my on the go gaming.

[ 2023-05-11 17:18:33Z ]👍 3

Gabe will take some pain and set 15% discount on Steam Sale 😂

[ 2023-05-11 17:19:39Z ]👍 19

You hit all the right points. I'm happy ASUS managed to fit such powerful specs into such a great price range, and are providing some serious competition that (unlike Nintendo) is competitive in the PC gaming space. I use an ASUS ROG motherboard in my main gaming PC, so I'm not surprised they can deliver on the sheer hardware side of things. But it lacks many of the features, community support structures, and foundational open software principles that end up making the Steam Deck so much more than just a gaming laptop with controller handles.

[ 2023-05-11 17:20:25Z ]👍 4

You sound a bit sad

[ 2023-05-11 17:29:39Z ] 👍 2

@@fortunatmutunda4194 that’s what I aim for ✌️

[ 2023-05-11 17:27:13Z ] 👍 0

@@gamingonlinux Your voice is quite soothing actually

[ 2023-05-11 17:24:07Z ] 👍 8

Weird, just my usual speaking voice. Sorry I'm not shouty and hyper like some other youtubers ;)

[ 2023-05-11 17:22:05Z ]👍 4

Valve has kind of pulled a Nintendo, showing that having more powerful hardware isn't always the way to the top.

[ 2023-05-11 17:28:17Z ]👍 1

Can’t wait to mess around with this thing

[ 2023-05-11 17:34:15Z ]👍 45

Completely respect your choice to stick to Linux because it's your passion

[ 2023-05-12 02:35:13Z ] 👍 0

@@gamingonlinux The steam deck 2 will be a big.LITTLE design but it won't be a big gigantic gain in performance tho. Also they're planning on finding a way to use sodium battery for more battery time.

[ 2023-05-11 18:04:41Z ] 👍 4

Ye screw windows,just a win pc in small factor,no constant support and updates

[ 2023-05-11 17:37:57Z ] 👍 11

Yep, that's where my interest and fun is. I'm not chasing trends constantly or I wouldn't be here :P

[ 2023-05-11 17:34:48Z ]👍 0

Do it support the nreal air glasses

[ 2023-05-11 17:39:48Z ]👍 1

I could be wrong but doesn't UK pricing include the vat tax in the price? It was almost 750 in usa after tax

[ 2023-05-11 17:41:01Z ]👍 0

Imma be real with ya'll. I'd throw my xbox controller out of my window if there was a steam controller 2 with SD's layout

[ 2023-05-11 17:55:40Z ]👍 1

Ally is about to wreck the Steam Deck. This is coming from a Steam Deck user Lol.

[ 2023-05-11 20:06:56Z ] 👍 1

It might outsell it, but at the end of the day it's just yet another in a long line of more powerful yet more expensive Windows-based handhelds. Deck will keep going strong.

[ 2023-05-11 17:58:14Z ]👍 0

Appreciate the channel on content! Steam Deck has definitely pealed my interest in learning the Linux software, do you have any recommendations to someone new who would want to dive into the world of Linux?

[ 2023-05-11 17:58:32Z ]👍 4

Hopefully, Valve will improve availability of the Steam Deck in the UK to help in it's fight against the competition. The 64GB model has been pretty much continuously out of stock since the Spring Sale, and the 256GB model has been unavailable since early last week too. It'll be interesting to see if stocks deplete in other regions too.

[ 2023-05-17 21:59:32Z ] 👍 0

Hopefully they start selling in other regions too. I have been waiting for more than a year without any communication on if/when it is coming. I'm tired of it tbh.

[ 2023-05-11 18:00:09Z ] 👍 2

I have emailed Valve to ask, no reply yet.

[ 2023-05-11 18:16:36Z ]👍 2

The things which most interest me about the ROG Ally are related to compatibility. I've enjoyed owning a Steam Deck, but it has required a lot of tinkering. I've never been satisfied with the performance of outside launchers like Epic and GoG via Heroic, and it took forever to get a small fan game to run acceptably. If the ROG Ally also doesn't require constant cache updates, that would be a win for usability. That said, competition in this area is good and it was inevitable that new products would start leapfrogging each other. I have more confidence that Valve will support their products well into the future, and that they can justify the low system price-tag by expanding the audience for Steam.

[ 2023-05-11 18:28:19Z ]👍 0

Get a job and stop being lazy. You sound like the same group that clings too there dusty old Ps4s & Xbox 360s. The price is very competitive and way more powerful than the SD. The only reason why its popular its the aggressive price point. However, Steam OS/Linux is trash and buggy . Get s job !

[ 2023-05-11 18:34:47Z ]👍 1

With how involved Xbox is with the Ally (that Asus announcement showcase felt like a giant Xbox ad), I'm guessing Asus won't be helping to get Linux on the Ally. It'll be up the community to do it.

[ 2023-05-11 18:56:29Z ]👍 11

Lack of touchpads and truly functional sleep mode is killing Ally for me, even before we get to the community and software side. Steam Deck won't be able to run every new game (especially if they keep coming out in such horrible technical states), but I think it'll run enough. I'd rather wait for Steam Deck 2 as my generational upgrade.

[ 2023-05-11 18:56:58Z ]👍 1

Almost perfect I hate those kind of D-pads.

[ 2023-05-11 19:01:10Z ]👍 2

The 64GB Steam Deck's entry price is too low to be affected by the ROG Ally, but it would not surprise me at all if the 256GB and 512GB Steam Deck models take a huge hit on the sales chart. The only reason that wouldn't happen is if the Ally launch is a complete disaster. If the ROG Ally turns out to be a success and starts to eat at the Steam Deck sales, I do agree that Valve might need to realign/streamline their model lineup if they're not planning to release more powerful updated versions anytime soon. They should drop the 64GB model, but bring the 256GB model down to take its place at the 399 entry, and drop the 512 GB model down to 499.

[ 2023-05-11 19:08:41Z ]👍 1

You definitely said it right, and even in the best order. My feels from Day 1, are the community behind this device. Best kinds of people. It's not about all the features, specs, and games. It's about the best of all those things, with everyone getting a chance to be a part of it

[ 2023-05-11 19:11:07Z ]👍 2

I'll wait for a steam deck upgrade, steam native support is just too good to waste 799 euro on a windows machine schedule to have bloated updates to ruin performance.

[ 2023-05-11 19:16:25Z ]👍 1

If I were to get a second device in this general category it would be something like the GPD Win Max 2 since it's more of an ultraportable laptop first and a gaming device second, kind of the opposite of the Deck.

[ 2023-05-11 20:03:45Z ]👍 1

Honestly, after a while, I don't WANT to own so many handheld devices. If I wanted to play with up to 120Hz at 1080p or higher, I might as well just use my gaming laptop. Steam Deck is for playing my Steam library with a super easy UI in low settings. I LOVE the ease of use of the stock UI, its customizability, and the dedication of its community. Windows on a handheld just straight up SUCKS. And I honestly like daily driving Windows for work stuff. But geezus, I hate to use even tablets with Windows rn. It's just not a good experience on anything other than a mouse and keyboard. For Me Personally: a Switch+Deck+PC covers literally everything I could want to play for my use case.

[ 2023-05-11 20:09:16Z ]👍 26

I might be a minority among the SteamDeck users but I wouldn't have bought it if it wasn't open. People seem to forget how much of the SteamDeck's success is based on the hard work and passion of open development. I'm sure there are many who have supported community handhelds since before the (Open)Pandora that won't touch Windows. Also It's hard to imagine any company matching Valve's support behind the scenes. Linux is the future of gaming because of the community.

[ 2023-05-13 11:31:15Z ] 👍 0

@@badsamaritan8223 I did so more than 10 years ago. It all depends on why and what keeps you on Windows. I used to be a gamer on Windows. I still play games almost every day, the only thing that changed for me is that I am now more productive, and I've got a job.

[ 2023-05-13 08:48:49Z ] 👍 1

I'm the same as I'm too lazy to hack my own consoles so it's nice to have one that's open by default

[ 2023-05-13 04:01:25Z ] 👍 1

This. I don't think most people realize how much of Window's userbase are gamers who would happily abandon windows, as soon as a legitimate alternative presented itself. I'm one of those people.

[ 2023-05-12 11:32:43Z ] 👍 4

The Steam Deck we know today also likely wouldn't exist at all if it wasn't for previous hardware products like the Steam Link, Steam Controller, and of course the Steam Machines. Although none of these seemingly were considered a grand success on their own, the employees at Valve have definitely learned something with every release, and improved upon previous issues to get the Steam Deck to where it was on release day. Something that, as I'im told, wasn't exactly perfect either.

[ 2023-05-11 20:11:03Z ]👍 2

If more people downloaded the Steam OS for the Ally, ultimately that'd be great for Steam bc it means more sales and use of their storefront, and for us who want an alternative to Windows OS

[ 2023-05-11 20:21:14Z ]👍 2

Gotta respect the hussle bro, keep at it, still love my deck ❤

[ 2023-05-11 20:24:28Z ]👍 1

competition for valve's steam deck in pc gaming space is actually really good for valve. I believe steam decks are sold at a loss for valve. if the rog ally manages to take up some of the steam decks market share then valve will sell less steam deck and lose less money, all the while these people will have steam on their windows pc enabled rog ally and play games and buy games through the steam marketplace. realistically valve comes out on top and we don't need to vehemently oppose all new competition, doing so would ultimately lead to technological stagnation.

[ 2023-05-11 20:27:09Z ]👍 0

I think competition is good, and if this device is good, it will only prompt Valve to get better as well. At least until version 3... However, Asus is having a bit of a problem with some of their motherboards causing AMD chips to effectively explode. And until very recently, they haven't taken responsibility for that. So while if I didn't already have a Steam Deck, I'd likely consider the Asus ROG Ally, it's off the table for me for the foreseeable future.

[ 2023-05-11 20:32:57Z ]👍 0

LTT reviewed it, and I think they must be getting BJ's from asuse, because they creamed all over it.. lol.. I'm sticking with my deck too.

[ 2023-05-11 20:53:39Z ]👍 1

Z1 Extreme preorder successful in my household. I will still use my Steam Deck and Switch OLED. Each handheld have their purpose. I do not really dabble in emu.

[ 2023-05-11 20:56:43Z ]👍 1

The best way I can summarize it is that the steam deck is a handheld console and quite an open one at that. That brings a community, imagine all the talent of homebrew but without it being a hack. The device is made by people who care and have a goal in mind rather than just making money, pushing Linux gaming forward, better more inventive controllers, right to repair, a more modular software and more caring software updates. Yeah the ally has more power of course it is, it came out a year later, it can play more games, of course it can, it runs windows and that right there it is the worst thing about it. It's a handheld PC. That sucks, always have, always will.

[ 2023-05-11 21:12:05Z ]👍 4

Not a problem at all, I think it's good that you are clear on this point, and open about your "bias", if you can call it that. 🙂 I basically stopped gaming all together 12 years ago when I started daily driving linux. I only got back into it about a year ago thanks to all the work Valve has done with proton on PC. Thruth is, I never would have gotten a steam deck if it didn't run Linux. And let me tell you as a Linux gamer I'm used to being disappointed and my expectations were super low, but boy did Valve deliver if you ask me. 🙂 It's like a dream come true. I've thought a lot about why I run Linux, because I'm not a free software purist, I don't consider proprietary software immoral. And it's not because it's always better, because it's a hassle sometimes. The only answer that's left at the end of the day is a very personal one, it makes computing fun for me. 🙂

[ 2023-05-11 21:17:01Z ] 👍 5

You nailed my overall feelings. I'm not a FOSS purist and frankly, the zealot attitude of some in the Linux community really bothers me. I use Linux because it feels like I actually own it, it's mine, it's more personal, I don't have a company constantly trying to force things on me. It just feels better.

[ 2023-05-11 21:58:48Z ]👍 1

I have said it before in other comments, I simply don't trust ASUS. I have been on both sides of this, previous 2022 ROG G14 owner and current Steam Deck owner and I can say my experience has been much more pleasant with the Steam Deck and I basically use it as a replacement for my laptop. My G14 lasted less than a year and I finally got a refund for it last month. Its main issue was an issue where it would reboot while sleeping and I would loose everything I had open, it took several months of back and forth and multiple RMA's to finally get a refund because they could not fix it. On top of that, the ROG crate is badly coded and often, simple changes would result in my power options being reset and other settings getting lost and not to mention half the crate would often not function without a reboot. Put on top of that, lack of video driver updates and several bad BIOS updates where performance and battery power consumption was severely effected (just check the G14 owners Reddit group) just ended up as bad overall experience. I just felt that after half a year, ASUS already lost interest in the device and they were off to the next device they can sell. They will do the same with the Ally, this time next year all the Ally owners will be pushed to buy another new Ally, which is just sick. In the end, owning a Steam Deck is like being part of a community and a community that cares, and Valve does too. I know the Steam Deck is also not perfect but I believe that Valve is striving to make it as good as it can be and not just planning the next new device they want to ship like ASUS. That's just my tuppenceworth. Keep up the excellent work!! I love your videos and news updates.

[ 2023-05-11 22:06:21Z ]👍 0

Im waiting for the steamdeck 2.

[ 2023-05-11 22:28:08Z ]👍 0

Totally agree. I have a question, there is a dead zone on the left side of the right trackpad and it is software related. Is there a way to remove this limitations ?

[ 2023-05-11 22:46:25Z ]👍 0

Window 11 on the Ally sounds like a virus coders dream. Think about it.

[ 2023-05-11 22:55:58Z ]👍 4

I feel you man. Windows makes me sick using it anytime I have to. My last Job forced me to use Windows and it became one of the main reasons I quit. So happy to have found a job where I only administrate Linux machines <3

[ 2023-05-11 23:52:45Z ]👍 0

I think Valve should drop 64 gig model and do $400 for 256 and $500 for 512 gig models.

[ 2023-05-12 00:20:03Z ]👍 1

the less Windows in my life the better tbh lol

[ 2023-05-12 00:26:33Z ]👍 0

TBF I wasn't interested in a handheld but it was because it has a full Linux desktop (KDE) OS, and fully moddable and repairable is why I bought a Deck. I am glad there is some competition just to keep Valve honest.

[ 2023-05-12 01:12:05Z ]👍 1

Software is king. Hence the reason why I’ll stick with the Steam Deck.

[ 2023-05-12 01:54:04Z ]👍 0

Very much onboard with all of your points there, I absolutely love my Steam Deck and wouldn’t trade it with anything else out there regardless of price. The issue with these Windows devices is that they miss out on what makes the Steam Deck special: the support from Valve and the community at large. As mushy as it sounds, it’s a product that’s created with love and is loved by millions and that’s reflected in the way you’re looked after as an end user every time you switch it on. It’s channels like yours that keep this spirit alive and I can’t thank you enough for representing the average gamer, as opposed to these other clickbait YouTubers fawning over there review units of products that are inaccessible to many of us. The Steam Deck is going places and it good to have you along for the ride.

[ 2023-05-12 04:49:38Z ]👍 0

After the whole Ryzen 7000 CPUs exploding saga, the reputation of ASUS is quite damaged, and this thing will require a long term commitment from them, especially on the software side. Some competition certainly can't hurt though.

[ 2023-05-12 07:58:39Z ]👍 0

I do not have a lot of budget, so I should try to combine work needs with pleasure. The Steam Deck has 100% replaced my laptop, and in total it probably is cheaper than my second hand laptop. The deck is ideally to do some programming on long train journeys. As such it has earned itself back a lot of times. And as for budgeting: this is a business expense because I use it primarily for work (which is .... Linux) The ASUS ROG is unusable for work. To me it would be like buying a 1500 Euro iphone: a big waste of money for a doorstop.

[ 2023-05-12 09:50:08Z ]👍 1

I don't understand the notion that if a new product being released it means that the other is abandoned. We seen in VR, the device that gets better support and bigger community (Oculus quest 2) is the one that survives many years after there are already many great alternatives.

[ 2023-05-12 11:13:43Z ]👍 0

what game is that?

[ 2023-05-12 12:25:42Z ] 👍 0

Brotato

[ 2023-05-12 13:33:32Z ]👍 5

This is my take on the ROG Ally + Amazing performance IF you are okay with 1-2 hours of battery life. + Higher resolution display allow more flexibility. (Increased graphical fidelity, better scaling in emulators). - Terrible performance (compared to the Steam Deck) if you want to conserve battery life beyond 3 hours - It cannot go much below 7-9W due to the 8-core CPU. So you are stuck with 4 hours at most, with REALLY bad GPU performance. Steam Deck can have 4-8.5 hours with better performance (Which is apparent in on old PC/AAA-games, indies, 2D games and emulation) - Lack of touchpads, You can't play a lot of PC games intuitively without touchpads or navigate around all the "jank" of PC gaming (launchers, mouse-only menus etc) - Unknown repairability. This will likely be bad with Asus pulling both support and repairs beyond the warranty period. - Windows (It's a terrible OS, what can I say?)

[ 2023-05-12 13:55:37Z ]👍 0

I'll admit, I was pretty interested in the prospect of a new PC handheld. But the lack of a reliable suspend function made me completely lose interest in the ally.

[ 2023-05-12 14:49:08Z ]👍 0

The minute of truth.

[ 2023-05-12 17:01:29Z ]👍 2

I appreciate you ❤ running this channel on your own with all of the limitations that come with doing so. Always enjoy your content!

[ 2023-05-12 20:06:53Z ]👍 0

I'm surprised that any Linux focused creators are doing anything with the Allly aside from acknowledging its existence. Thanks for not becoming something other than a channel about Linux gaming.

[ 2023-05-12 21:31:45Z ]👍 0

I do appreciate the community post made about the feelings towards ASUS's approach to being held accountable for their mistakes. Even though this handheld is from a large player in the computer niche, I don't see it as much different in user-repairability than any of the GPD or Ayn or AYA devices. Valve teaming up with iFixIt cemented my belief in long-term support. I need trust that my device lasts and is user-centered, rather than solely profit-centered, to want to purchase. You can have the best specs and still have the worst UX, especially when things go wrong.

[ 2023-05-13 03:57:08Z ]👍 0

I'm all in on Steam Deck at this point. I'm just waiting for compatibility to reach 90% of my steam library, and I'll be putting SteamOS on my desktop and laptop, as soon as it's publicly available. I fully expect SteamOS to be the first distro with legitimate, long term support, that's going to get major software developers making their apps and tools on linux, natively. When this happens, I really hope Microsoft will change it's tune on consumer focused design, rather than data collection.

[ 2023-05-13 09:06:55Z ]👍 1

Steam Deck or Asus ROG Ally? Why no both? >:)

[ 2023-05-13 09:59:14Z ]👍 0

Fuck Asus. Garbage anti consumer company

[ 2023-05-13 11:31:30Z ]👍 0

It runs linux that was good enough for me to buy it and after almost 20 yrs of using linux it plays games pretty easy what a bonus

[ 2023-05-13 12:10:01Z ]👍 0

I’m happy with my steam deck 256GB I can play lots of AAA game on here 😃

[ 2023-05-13 16:48:24Z ]👍 0

I ended up with an Aye Neo Pro before I was able to get a Steam Deck. It probably wasn't really worth the cost, but I played it quite a bit before I got the Deck. However, I played it with ChimeraOS because I prefer to use Linux over Windows. If I were to end up with an ROG Ally, I would most certainly be running a Linux distribution on it, most likely ChimeraOS or HoloISO. Right now, I'm pretty satisfied with my Steam Deck, though, and I don't see myself giving up the trackpads and gyro for another handheld that doesn't have trackpads, and so far doesn't have gyro controls for gaming (there's speculation that there may be a gyro feature that will be enabled for games later).

[ 2023-05-13 18:53:03Z ]👍 0

Gonna wait longer to see what happens with linux support on the ally

[ 2023-05-13 21:47:03Z ]👍 0

I will keep my steam deck too. Moving to Ally now doesn't make sense. Ally is welcome because it could create competition and could press Valve to do more. I will move to a new steam deck model when it makes sense

[ 2023-05-14 02:55:43Z ]👍 0

Thank you. I love my Deck and I'm with you.

[ 2023-05-14 03:04:02Z ]👍 0

If Valve could get the base model Deck down to $299 it would be a magic price point that would explode sales - especially if they could get it into retail stores. I think they should reduce prices to, say, $299, $449 & $599 for the base, mid and premium models respectively. The Deck's parts are a couple of years older than when they were sourced so their costs should be down by now. And/or perhaps they could even make the 256GB the base, the 512GB the mid and a 1TB model the premium.

[ 2023-05-14 12:15:58Z ]👍 0

I don't think the Ally is worth £699. At that price point I'd rather spend it on a home-console-sized PC which would deliver up to 1440p ultra/high performance. For me, the steam deck is for extended play not a gaming PC replacement therefore £699 on a handheld just doesn't make any sense for me.

[ 2023-05-17 21:51:29Z ]👍 1

I have the money but the fact they dont ship a linux version makes me not want to support that product when theres already the Steam Deck that does everything right already

[ 2023-05-18 20:40:32Z ]👍 0

The ally might be competitive in its even more premium class, but 800 euros is still more than two steam decks. Plus instead of Valve working hard using Linux, the best OS, and giving it pre-installed to so many people who would have never installed it otherwise, you got Asus and Microsoft to rely on... Steam deck all the way. It's half the price, more than powerful enough, and the software side of it is so cool.

[ 2023-05-19 09:38:18Z ]👍 0

i love the steam deck, i got 400 version (419 euros here in the netherlands) allthough i hope they come out with a more powerfull version, also great at low TDP in maybe 3 or 4 years. with a better screen (smaller bezzels, oled) maybe better battery but i mostly play whilst connected anyway. then i would want the ergonomics to be the exact same, it feels amazing in the hands. maybe a bit thicker for a bigger battery, or better cooling. and i would immediately buy the cheapest version for 499/599 or something.

[ 2023-05-20 23:54:36Z ]👍 1

Excellent video as always. I'm like yourself I bought a steam deck last year. I'm still impressed with the steam deck and the steam deck community is awesome. I'll be playing my steam deck for years to come.

[ 2023-06-02 13:08:29Z ]👍 0

Yeah, I'd have taken one just because I'm passionate about open platform gaming, but the lack of touchpads is a dealbreaker for me, too. I can't justify buying something I'd hardly ever use at the end of the day

[ 2023-05-12 09:58:21Z ]👍 14

Before jumping into bed with ASUS with the Ally, you might also want to know about all the anti-consumer shady stuff they're doing. Some important viewing: "I'm sorry ASUS... but you're fired!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ-QVOKGVyM "Scumbag ASUS: Overvolting CPUs & Screwing the Customer" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbGfc-JBxlY Again...sticking with Steam Deck. You trust them to fix a broken Ally? Nah.

[ 2023-05-19 09:39:45Z ] 👍 0

[ 2023-05-13 03:59:08Z ] 👍 1

This. ASUS doesn't have a great track record, and they definitely don't have a history of being a disruptor, challenging the status quo, or innovating.

[ 2023-05-12 17:06:17Z ] 👍 4

I guess you could say they're not the consumer's Ally

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