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Vmware player 12.5.1 - Windows 7 64bit SP1
Wine-staging 1.9.23 CSMT enabled



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Intro: by user colonelkoik
System Specs:
Processor:AMD FX-8320 @ 4,4Ghz
Memory:16 GB DDR3 (1866Mhz)
Video Card:EVGA GTX 1070 SC Gaming 8GB
Sound Card:Focusrite Scarlett 2i2
Motherboard:Gigabyte GA-970A-D3
Operating System:Arch Linux 64bit
Kernel: 4.8.13-1-ARCH
Filesystem: ext4
Nvidia drivers: 375.26
Desktop Environment: MATE (1.16-gtk3) with XFWM4 + nvidia's ForceCompositionPipeline = On

[ 2016-12-19 21:28:11Z ]👍 1

With vmware, what's the highest graphics API it supports? Last time I tried a VM with a MacOS image, I couldn't even get a full OpenGL 3 context without issue, so I'm curious.

[ 2017-07-21 09:36:56Z ] 👍 0

It supports DX 10, so it does not support 10.1/11 and not DX12, no idea about GL support but well, we don't really need that bit do we? It is behind but the differences between 10 and 11 are not that big so they should be able to make dx11 support soon enough if they really want to.

[ 2016-12-19 21:41:40Z ] 👍 0

Fratm's Linux Channel Interesting, that's pretty far behind. I can't imagine how anyone could use a more modern 3D application in a VM then.

[ 2016-12-19 21:36:37Z ] 👍 1

DirectX 10, last I heard.

[ 2016-12-20 01:03:49Z ]👍 1

The title is misleading because you aren't necessarily comparing VMware to Wine, you are comparing Windows 7 running inside a VMware VM to Wine Staging on Arch. HexDSL recently did a video showing that Windows 7 performance is quite a bit lower than Windows 10 in a virtual machine. I found similar results with both XP and 7 when compared to Windows 10. It's also worth noting that the performance inside the virtual machine greatly depends on the resources you allocate to it AND the resources the host OS is using at the time. For example I see better performance in games when I allocate 2GB of display memory over 1GB despite the game using less than 1GB of total memory.

[ 2016-12-20 19:04:48Z ] 👍 0

+Xpander69 Hypervisors (especially type 2 hypervisors like VMware Player) handle resources vastly different than bare-metal machines. Even though the GUI makes it look like you are allocating 1GB or whatever, it's not like that at all. In fact, I'm not sure if a type 2 hypervisor even has access to the dedicated GPU memory. When you allocate the "video memory", you are effectively "borrowing" from the allocated system memory, all which comes from your hardware memory *not* your GPU memory. Virtual Machines are incredibly complicated but also incredibly fascinating. It's incredible that a type 2 hypervisor is capable of 3D rendering like this.

[ 2016-12-20 17:17:07Z ] 👍 0

okei, im now at pc again.. will check the windows 10 perf in vmware next year probably, thanks for the heads up. But i gave lots of resources, i wish there was a way to give more than 2GB vram, probably wouldnt make difference @1080p though

[ 2016-12-20 01:49:42Z ] 👍 0

Egee maybe. 2gb was vram and i also gave all 8 cores and 12gb of ram...

[ 2016-12-21 14:19:41Z ]👍 0

Nice benchmark.Pity that Virtualbox hasn't enought performance for gaming.

[ 2016-12-22 11:21:34Z ]👍 0

good comparison, and it shows again how powerful galliun-nine for wine DX9 gaming, with same settings hd7970 (2011 year card) show 55.4(2318)

[ 2016-12-22 11:51:14Z ] 👍 0

yeah, but i think theres also a cpu overhead on valley. since it doesnt use multiple threads it sucks on my AMD FX cpu. but yeah ...gallium nine is expected to perform better in this situation.. opengl performance however is still lacking on amd mesa drivers

[ 2017-07-21 09:36:05Z ]👍 1

Really cool to see how good VMWare has become for gaming, I never thought it would actually be able to do this, although it sorta freaked out at 2:27 lol, but both are highly impressive, so for what WINE fails VMWare can pick up the slack, I'm thinking I'll switch to fulltime linux real soon.

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